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		<title>Telegraph: This recession just became a depression</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally, the mainstream are catching up with what the Renegade Economist was saying back in October last year.  Before you read on, this is the press conference video worth watching again $45 Trillion Wealth Wipe ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Finally, the mainstream are catching up with what the Renegade Economist was saying back in October last year.  Before you read on, this is the press conference video worth watching again </em><a href="http://renegadeeconomist.com/video/renegade-economist-press-conference.html"><em>$45 Trillion Wealth Wipe Out</em></a>.  <span id="more-816"></span></p>
<p> It is difficult to know what to be most shocked by in the gross domestic product<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/6415120/Britain-still-in-recession-Gordon-Browns-rescue-plan-accused-of-failure.html"> </a>figures published by the Office for National Statistics this morning: the fact that we are in the longest-lasting deepest continuous recession in recorded history or that no-one in the City foresaw it*.</p>
<p>Leaving aside the City&#8217;s failings, with which we are intimately familiar, the scale of the economic collapse is disturbing. The National Institute for Economic and Social Research has been calling this a &#8220;depression&#8221; rather than a recession for some time &#8211; these figures surely now underline such a description.</p>
<p>A brief look at the figures beneath the headline figure of a 0.4pc fall reveals that almost all parts of the economy &#8211; from industry and manufacturing to services to construction to transport suffered significant contractions. Only the government managed to keep its economic output from falling, stagnating during the quarter thanks to extra health spending (swine flu-related I wonder?).</p>
<p>The GDP fall, as you may have seen elsewhere, means that this is now the longest technical recession since at least 1955 (and most probably since the 1930s, though the ONS doesn&#8217;t have figures on this) at six quarters, or a year and a half, long. The late 1970s/early 1980s slump was deeper, but was not a long uninterrupted period of economic output falls.</p>
<p>Either way, though, the difference is academic. So far, the UK economy has contracted by 5.9pc, compared with an overall slide of 6pc in the early 1980s. But this time around, the recession was far faster than the last few ones, as evinced by this chart from the ONS themselves (though bear in mind the 1980s line doesn&#8217;t include a couple of quarters of contraction in 1979).</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/files/2009/10/2294.gif"><img src="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/files/2009/10/2294.gif" alt="2294 Telegraph: This recession just became a depression " width="386" height="272" title="Telegraph: This recession just became a depression " /></a></p>
<p>Anyway, as I see it there are a few important instant takeaways from the figures this morning:</p>
<p><strong>1. It shatters any delusions that Britain is &#8220;well placed&#8221; to withstand the recession, </strong>as claimed by Gordon Brown. The fact is that the Government and the Bank of England have, together thrown more stimulus at the economy than in almost any other previous downturn, and still not averted this horrendous decline. The fact is now that the UK will come out of recession significantly later than most other Western nations.</p>
<p><strong>2. This significantly raises the likelihood that the Bank of England will have to extend its quantitative easing (QE) programme </strong>beyond the £175bn ceiling it has currently laid out. Given that the Bank (which meets and decides on this the week after next) has already done more in terms of QE than any other central bank in the developed world, the significance of this cannot be underplayed.</p>
<p>On this front, here&#8217;s Malcolm Barr from JP Morgan: &#8220;Given this morning&#8217;s news, we are revising [our forecast] to anticipate a £50bn extension&#8230; The MPC was already concerned that the prospective recovery in output would be insufficient to begin to absorb slack and prevent an inflation undershoot: those concerns will be heightened by this morning&#8217;s data, even given the potential for upward revision.</p>
<p><strong>3. A revision is possible. </strong>These first estimates comprise are around 60pc forecast and 40pc actual hard data collected by the ONS, so inevitably involve a certain amount of error possibility. But then the average amount by which first estimates are ultimately revised is historically only around 0.2pc, so unless there is a really big miscalculation by the ONS, I wouldn&#8217;t hold out for these figures to be revised later into positive territory.</p>
<p>Which leaves us with the question of why the City got it so wrong. According to Reuters, the average forecast among City economists ahead of these figures was for growth of 0.2pc. The short answer is that the analysts were wrongfooted by other surveys, which had indeed suggested that the recession had come to an end. In particular, the Purchasing Managers&#8217; Indices for both manufacturing and services, which had been pretty accurate in pinpointing the start of the recession, were screaming out that the contraction was over. Perhaps they are less reliable when it comes to predicting recoveries than slumps. The truth, though, is that the official data, which is based less on surveys than actual hard statistics, has been weak in recent months, whether it is for retail sales or manufacturing.</p>
<p>Although it is fashionable to pin all the blame on the economists, I admit that these figures took me rather by surprise too. I had assumed for a while that the weak pound would have helped boost the economy more than it appears to have. The fact is it seems as if the sheer force of the credit crunch and financial crisis has been so overwhelming in the UK that even the oomph of a devaluation and quantitative easing has failed to prevent a terrific recession.</p>
<p>I am putting together some more analysis and we&#8217;ll have a load of coverage in the paper tomorrow.</p>
<p>* I say this, but, spookily, my colleague Angela Monaghan revealed this morning, before the release, that she dreamt last night that there would be a 0.4pc contraction. We now fear she will shortly be recruited to the City to replace the economists who got it so wrong.</p>
<p> Source: <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100001543/this-recession-just-became-a-depression/#" target="_blank">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/100001543/this-recession-just-became-a-depression/#</a>#</p>
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		<title>The Guardian &#8211; Recession has bottomed out, say business leaders&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The mood among UK business leaders has hit its highest level for a year, with a small majority believing that the bottom of the business cycle has been &#8230;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jun/21/business-confidence-survey-kpmg
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mood among UK business leaders has hit its highest level for a year, with a small majority believing that the bottom of the business cycle has been &#8230;</p>
<p><span id="more-613"></span><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jun/21/business-confidence-survey-k">http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jun/21/business-confidence-survey-kpmg</a></p>
<p>A survey of UK business leaders advised The Guardian they see signs the recession is leveling off if not any time soon coming to an end. The Guardian reports that one in three firms are experiencing financial difficulties. Many are likely to fail if global and domestic demand continues to fall, and demand will fall unless employment increases.</p>
<p>The survey reported that &#8220;one in four businesses have seen their banking relationship worsen&#8221;. Bankers have had to tighten credit criteria, increase reserves for loan losses and deal with continuing increases in defaults and foreclosures.</p>
<p>Recently, the UK&#8217;s National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) reported that the UK economy resumed growth in April and May. And,  Martin Weale, director of NIESR, reported that GDP figures should indicate the downturn has ended &#8220;or that it is close to over&#8221;.</p>
<p>One problem with government forecasts based on GDP (Gross Domestic Product) is that what goes into the GDP figure has little to do with measurement of real economic growth. Virtually every amount spent by the government goes into the GDP calculation, regardless of what the money is spent or whether raised by taxation, borrowing or monetary expansion.</p>
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